Comments on: April Fools: Dayhiking the Grand Canyon Rim to Rim to Rim https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/ America’s Best Backpacking and Outdoor Adventures Fri, 09 Aug 2024 11:28:52 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-240325 Fri, 10 Feb 2023 12:11:28 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-240325 In reply to Eric D. Shin.

Good luck, Eric. I know scheduling is hard, especially with a big group, but I’d recommend going a few weeks earlier if at all possible, for better chances of moderate temps. But May 10 may work out, too.

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By: Eric D. Shin https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-240310 Fri, 10 Feb 2023 02:51:42 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-240310 In reply to Michael Lanza.

Thank you for your response. I will turn 60 this June and I am taking about ten people with me, all much younger than me, on May 10 this year to do it. We are hoping that we can do this in 20 hours.

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-240304 Fri, 10 Feb 2023 01:03:46 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-240304 In reply to Eric D. Shin.

Hi Eric,

My first r2r2r was hiking (not running) with daypacks and we took about 17 hours. My second r2r2r involved a mix of running and hiking (the steep uphills) with running vests (going lighter than the first) and we finished in about 15 hours. Certainly, many people have hiked or run faster than we did but our time is a reasonable comparison for fit, middle-aged hikers and runners who arrive prepared for it.

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By: Eric D. Shin https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-240300 Thu, 09 Feb 2023 23:58:05 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-240300 Thank you so much for taking your time out to reflect on your trip and write this.

How many hours did it take you guys to finish r2r2r?

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-240042 Tue, 31 Jan 2023 20:06:24 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-240042 In reply to Suzanne.

Hi Suzanne,

We didn’t need traction on the North Rim even though we were hiking over snow and traction would have been somewhat helpful. In truth, the snow was soft and will be soft barring nights near or below freezing; and traction wouldn’t help much in soft snow, kicking steps with boots works well enough, and you’d carry the weight of spikes for most of the hike. I would check the forecast for overnight lows right before your trip to see the likely temps when you’re there and decide whether to carry traction.

Good luck with your rim to rim run.

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By: Suzanne https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-240041 Tue, 31 Jan 2023 16:45:55 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-240041 Thanks for the info. Did you need traction on the north rim? Running R2R2R 4/1 this spring.

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-224244 Thu, 02 Dec 2021 11:51:47 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-224244 In reply to LD.

Good suggestion, LD. I’ve used Injinji socks. Although it’s a little more tedious pulling them on over each toe, they do help prevent blisters between toes. And it’s pretty comfortable feeling your toes separated by a thin wall of wicking fabric.

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By: LD https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-224224 Thu, 02 Dec 2021 01:12:23 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-224224 Injinji sock liners keep your toes from rubbing together so you don’t end up with blisters between or on top of your toes.

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-209526 Tue, 27 Jul 2021 12:43:28 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-209526 In reply to Russ Roberts.

Hi Russ,

Thanks for the comment. I have not hiked the Kalalau Trail on Kauai so I can’t help you with that, but you might find my story “How to Know How Hard a Hike Will Be” helpful. Good luck.

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By: Russ Roberts https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-209516 Tue, 27 Jul 2021 08:49:42 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-209516 Hey, thank you for such a well-written, pertinent and descriptive account. I’m a huge fan of hiking GC and Colorado Plateau in general, and I am very impressed. I will share this with everyone I can. Also had some questions about Kalalau trail on Kauai…got rained out a few yrs ago. Is it practical down and back in one day? 22 miles. I’m a decent hiker but not a marathoner. Thanks again, Russ

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-101658 Mon, 16 Jul 2018 13:24:07 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-101658 In reply to Marcus Dyson.

I think your points are accurate, Marcus. Dehydration and especially heat are the challenges on the r2r.
But living at over 3,000 feet confers some advantage (I live at 2,700 feet, it probably helps a bit) as does regularly training at over 6,000 feet, when preparing for Whitney.

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By: Marcus Dyson https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-101657 Mon, 16 Jul 2018 12:10:23 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-101657 In reply to MichaelALanza.

I’m not sure that I agree with you DG. I day hiked Whitney, and when I got to the bottom, I felt I could have (though would not necessarily have wanted to) done it again.
Altitude was really only a problem after Trail Crest Junction, and by the time I was back to the Portal, it was long forgotten.
I’ve done the GC R2R a couple of times and I was destroyed both times. Temperature and dehydration were much harder for me to cope with than altitude.
But them I live at 1000m and often hike above 2000m. I guess we each have different strengths and comfort zones.

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By: MichaelALanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-101651 Tue, 04 Apr 2017 21:13:26 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-101651 In reply to DG.

Hi DG, yes, I agree about Whitney’s elevation, certainly. I tried to acknowledge that difference in my story, sorry if I seemed to be comparing the two directly without some caveats. But I can say that, having dayhiked 44.5 miles on the r2r2r and climbing Whitney via The Mountaineers Route, the r2r2r was much, much harder.

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By: DG https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-101650 Thu, 30 Mar 2017 04:35:39 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-101650 Great write up. That said, I’m not sure about your Whitney comparison, suggesting r2r2r is “the equivalent of climbing Whitney twice in one day.” The altitude of Whitney makes the comparison suspect. I’ve done Whitney in a day and day hiked the GC in a day (several times). At 14K+, the altitude alone makes Whitney is way more of a butt-kicker.

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By: Chrissy https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-101637 Sat, 13 Feb 2016 17:25:43 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-101637 Great story! I just got approved for a 4 day R2R2R hike in June of this year – hot, I know. Do you have any training tips or a training regimen you followed for the months leading up to the hike? We currently live in Utah and are used to the dry climate and heat, drinking plenty of water, etc. We plan to do multiple 10+ mile hikes around Zion and the surrounding areas with our packs heavy this spring. But any stairclimbing/lunges/squat exercises that you increased to prepare for the elevation changes?

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By: One Photo, One Story: A Big Dayhike in the White Mountains | The Big Outside https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-101631 Tue, 27 Jan 2015 12:01:03 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-101631 […] the Grand Canyon and back in a day: 44 miles and over 11,000 feet of vertical. (See my story “A Grand Ambition, Or April Fools? Dayhiking the Grand Canyon Rim to Rim to Rim.”) But he and I—and the teenagers, all three of them very fit and experienced hikers—all […]

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By: Ask Me: Where Should Our Family Backpack in the Grand Canyon? | The Big Outside https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-101630 Tue, 09 Dec 2014 15:07:14 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-101630 […] miles—but that creates a big day. You can read about that hike and see pictures from it in this story at my blog about dayhiking the canyon from rim to rim to […]

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By: Ask Me: How’s November For Hiking the Grand Canyon? | The Big Outside https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-101629 Thu, 27 Nov 2014 17:12:06 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-101629 […] sure you’ve already searched The Big Outside for my Grand Canyon stories, let me point out my feature story about hiking rim to rim to rim and two Ask Me posts about hiking rim to river to rim and suggesting a different, big dayhike in […]

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By: michaellanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-101624 Tue, 05 Aug 2014 15:48:25 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-101624 In reply to Chris Keune.

Thanks, Chris, glad you found my article useful and inspirational. If you’ve done the r2r, you have a good sense of what it will take to do the full r2r2r. You might also find this useful: https://thebigoutsideblog.com/ask-me-hiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-river-to-rim/

Good luck, let me know how it goes for you.

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By: Chris Keune https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-101623 Tue, 05 Aug 2014 05:24:38 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-101623 Thanks Michael for the excellent information. We have done R2R the past 10 years. This year we did R2R2R over two days. So it would only seem natural to do the ultimate R2R2R in one day. Thanks again for providing the detailed, well organized information.

Chris (Fellow Grand Canyon Hiker)

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By: michaellanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-101622 Mon, 16 Jun 2014 12:26:37 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-101622 In reply to Paul Chapman.

Thanks, Paul. Yes, I don’t want to encourage people who aren’t ready for such an ambitious hike.

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By: michaellanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-101621 Mon, 16 Jun 2014 12:25:52 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-101621 In reply to Dagmara.

Thanks Dagmara. You’ll find more ideas for hikes by searching on “Grand Canyon” at The Big Outside. Get in touch anytime.

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By: Dagmara https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-101620 Mon, 16 Jun 2014 01:20:33 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-101620 Michael, hats off to you and your partners. What you’ve done is crazily wonderful and I love the adrenalin rush from this. R2R in one day is already a jaw opener, but R2R2R gets the tempo-mandibular joint right out of the socket! I fell in love with the Grand Canyon 2 years ago when I did the R2R over a span of 3.5 beautiful days. There was no rush, just pure joy of getting as much time in the canyon as we could. Now I’m ready for more and new challenges. I’m planning my second trip and searching for trails I may like and be able to do in one day possibly (nothing even close to what you’ve done). I stumbled on your website and enjoyed reading about your adventure. Thank You. I hope that when I’m in my 40’s and 50’s I only get stronger and more enthusiastic to undertake such amazing trips. Cheers! Dagmara

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By: Paul Chapman https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-101619 Fri, 13 Jun 2014 20:53:07 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-101619 Great write up. You’re open and honest so as to not encourage ‘weekend warriors’.

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By: Mid-Life Crisis: Hiking 50 Miles Across Zion In a Day | The Big Outside https://thebigoutsideblog.com/a-grand-ambition-or-april-fools-dayhiking-the-grand-canyon-rim-to-rim-to-rim/#comment-101603 Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:59:32 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=890#comment-101603 […] would be the farthest any of us has ever hoofed in a day, but arguably not as difficult as the 44-mile, rim-to-rim-to-rim dayhike of the Grand Canyon that six of the seven of us made a year ago (in two separate groups on different days)—which […]

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