Comments on: America’s Newest Long Trail: The Idaho Wilderness Trail https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/ America’s Best Backpacking and Outdoor Adventures Tue, 30 Apr 2024 19:48:43 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-247112 Tue, 02 Jan 2024 19:09:04 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-247112 In reply to tom.

Thanks, Tom. For readers, Tom and his son, Will, thru-hiked the entire IWT in 2022. You can find Will’s report, which focuses on critical logistical details and recommends variations off the IWT to avoid abandoned/unmaintained trails, at safesexandgoretex.com/2022/11/idaho-wilderness-trail-nitty-gritty.html, and Tom’s report, which is more of a travel log about the experience, here.

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By: tom https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-247110 Tue, 02 Jan 2024 18:14:04 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-247110 Here are links to two video presentations on the IWT: vimeo.com/825871594 and youtube.com.

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-238519 Sun, 27 Nov 2022 14:11:51 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-238519 In reply to Will Gattiker.

Thanks for those great details, Will. And congrats again on completing your IWT thru-hike.

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By: Will Gattiker https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-238502 Sat, 26 Nov 2022 23:47:17 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-238502 In reply to April Silver.

Hi April, I recently completed this trail from early September- early October. We saw quite a few rattlesnakes on this trip, mostly in the Selway and MF Salmon river corridors as well as the Bighorn Crags. The snakes were quite feisty and usually did not retreat from us. It would be extremely difficult and expensive to evacuate a big dog (or human!) from any of these areas.

The question about if the trail is entirely passable with a dog is tricky. My initial reaction is yes, but some sections might be extremely difficult. This is mostly due to the extremely poor trail conditions that you are likely to encounter in the Selway-Bitterroot Wilderness. At many points the brush was very, very thick even at face level for miles at a time, and I’m guessing it would be almost impossible for a dog to walk through closer to ground level. You might need carry it a lot.

I would absolutely carry an inReach or something related as Mike suggests, both for emergency communication as well as to receive information about wildfires in the area. You will likely see no other backpackers on the trail for 10+ days at a time.

The longest section between options to hitchhike out and resupply are about 107 miles in the Selway-Bitterroot and northern frank Church and and 130 miles in in the Bighorn Crags and MF Salmon area. You can have supplies flown into backcountry airstrips in these wilderness areas, sometimes at standard USPS rates.

Water was plentiful and clean. There is one ~13-mile section without water in the Selway-Bitterroot, which might become a 16-mile section if the spring is dry. We took an alternate route around this section for a variety of reasons.

I am working on a blog post that will go into more detail about some of these issues soon.

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-238387 Wed, 23 Nov 2022 04:50:36 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-238387 In reply to Will Gattiker.

Hey Will and Tom, congrats and awesome job! I’m looking forward to hearing all about it. Thanks for sharing that.

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By: Will Gattiker https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-238383 Wed, 23 Nov 2022 02:00:24 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-238383 Tom Gattiker and I completed the first known through-hike of the IWT between Sept. 9-Oct. 5, 2022. It was an incredible experience and I highly recommend that anyone considering the trail should definitely take a shot at it. Please feel to reach out to me at will.gattiker@gmail.com if you have any questions. My dad and I are also working on trip reports that we will most likely post here in the near future.

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-235105 Tue, 26 Jul 2022 21:25:46 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-235105 In reply to Michael.

Hi Michael,

Thanks for the kind words and I’m glad you’re excited about attempting the IWT. Travel logistics are definitely one of the great logistical challenges of a thru-hike of it.

Hitching rides for short distances on a single road, like the Salmon River Road to North Fork, Idaho (during the rafting/boating season) or along ID 21 into Stanley would be fairly easy. Hitching rides to either IWT endpoint would be nearly impossible because of the distances and remoteness. Atlanta is a tiny village at the end of a long dirt road through national forest. The Wilderness Gateway Campground is along one of the most rural highways in Idaho, hours from Atlanta or Stanley.

Search online for the commercial shuttle services that provide transportation for private boating parties floating the Selway, Main Salmon, and Middle Fork Salmon rivers; they offer transportation along the roads where IWT trailheads are located. If you want to start at the Tin Cup Trailhead on Pettit Lake (the trailhead for Alice Lake), Redfish Lodge offers a shuttle service to it. I’ve occasionally asked people at local lodging in small towns whether any employee wanted to make some extra cash providing a one-way ride to a trailhead.

Your best strategy may be to drive to Stanley, park at the trailhead a quarter-mile down the road from Redfish Lake Lodge, get shuttled by the lodge to Pettit, and arrange for a long shuttle from Wilderness Gateway Campground back to your car. It may be logistically simpler, though, to get that long shuttle at the start of your hike, from Redfish to Wilderness Gateway Campground, and hike back to your car in the Sawtooths.

Good luck. I’d love to hear how it goes for you after your trip. Feel free to email me at info@thebigoutsideblog.com.

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By: Michael https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-234923 Thu, 21 Jul 2022 21:15:01 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-234923 Michael, this is awesome. Thanks for bringing it into the world and laying it out so clearly here. Couple questions about logistics, for a north-bound hike:

1. It sounds like hitching into Stanley and North Fork for resupplies should be fine, yes? That would mean carrying supplies for about 120 miles for the last section, which is doable.

2. Any advice on car/TH-to-TH logistics? Bus service looks thin even between the bigger cities. Couple options I’m considering: Leave car in Boise where presumably it would be safe and hitch up to Atlanta (no idea how viable that is) to start, and then hitch back to Boise from the north terminus. Or, make an alternate start on the Alice Lake loop south of Stanley, leave car at that TH, and from the north terminus hitch to Missoula where there are flights to Stanley area. Neither of those sound great, but with a car and no friends in the area, not sure if there’s a better option. Thoughts? Thanks in advance.

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-234685 Mon, 11 Jul 2022 13:12:27 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-234685 I’ve created maps for the four Idaho Wilderness Trail stages on Gaiagps.com and shared the links in this story. While we had originally calculated the IWT’s total trail distance at just over 285 miles, on Gaia, the cumulative trail distance measures 296 miles, not including the three road sections that total 53.6 miles—bringing the IWT’s total length to nearly 350 miles.

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-234684 Mon, 11 Jul 2022 11:44:44 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-234684 In reply to Michael Lanza.

New update: Waterfall Creek Trail 45 was cleared from the Terrace Lakes to the Middle Fork Salmon River by a trail crew with the Selway Bitterroot Frank Church Foundation in August 2020. See their report (which mentions a nice campsite) at selwaybitterroot.org/sbfcblog/2020/8/in-the-frank-and-feeling-normal.

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-234440 Sat, 02 Jul 2022 22:09:27 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-234440 In reply to Chris Moeller.

Hey Chris,

Thanks for letting me know, I’m psyched for you, that’s a great hike. I’ve hiked much of the Middle Fork Salmon Trail, including the upper section from Boundary Creek to Indian Creek, which is really nice, and pieces of it from Indian to Big Creek—all sections I’ve hiked and seen are good trail, well-maintainsd and signed. I haven’t been on the Waterfalls Trail but have heard it may be rough: It’s probably better you’re going up it and I’d say you might not find suitable camping until you reach the Bighorn Crags. Give yourself plenty of time for that trail.

Great camping, lakes, and trails in the Crags, I believe. North of there the trail could get a little sketchy.

I plan to post maps of the trail very soon, before your trip. Email me at info@thebigoutsideblog.com and I’ll give you the links to them.

Glad you got in touch!

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By: Chris Moeller https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-234439 Sat, 02 Jul 2022 21:56:27 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-234439 Dear Michael,

We are looking at hiking from Boundary Creek down the Middle Fork Trail to Big Creek. Then Heading up the Waterfall Creek Trail to get into the Bighorn Crags. After exploring the Crags we are hoping to hike out the Clear Creek Trail to Panther Creek where we can get our car shuttled to confluence of Panther and the Main Salmon. We are planning on heading out on either the 7th or the 8th and are planning 10 days for exploring. Do you have any up to date information about these trails?

We appreciate any help or guidance you can give and will happily give you an update if/when we hit this trail.

Thanks,
Chris

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-233673 Fri, 03 Jun 2022 12:15:22 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-233673 In reply to April Silver.

Hi April,

Thanks for the questions and your interest in the Idaho Wilderness Trail.

Living in Salt Lake City, you would will be able to predict when you might encounter rattlesnakes and other snakes along the IWT: in the dry, hot terrain in the bottoms of the Middle Fork and Main Salmon river canyons and not so much in the higher, mountainous elevations or along the wetter and somewhat cooler Selway River. Still, as on trails around SLC, encounters are rare.

I’ve seen wide variability in the ability of dogs to manage trails and you obviously know your dog best. I think the vast majority of the IWT would not be a problem for most dogs. I have not yet backpacked every mile of it but, based on my experience in more remote parts of the national forests in Idaho, I suspect there are trail sections that are more rugged, steep, and rocky.

I think satellite phone options are generally expensive and kind of heavy and cumbersome to use. For remote travel, I see a lot of people using the Garmin inReach, which is more affordable both to purchase and get its coverage plan and very lightweight and easy to operate. It enables you to send text messages from anywhere as well as summon a rescue.

Resupplying along the IWT represents one of the major logistical challenges of the trail. There are very few options for the longer sections through the Frank Church-River of No Return Wilderness and Selway-Bitterroot Wilderness. I know of possibilities but I don’t have confirmation about any of them yet. It may depend on when you’re on the trail and the seasonal operations of some tourism-based businesses. I hope to provide updated information on that as I learn more.

Backcountry water sources are frequent enough along the IWT that I don’t think you’d have to carry more than two or three liters of water on any sections, except in very unusually dry late summers.

And I know that I’ve been occasionally posting about maps of the entire route coming soon, but I’ve actually begun creating them myself using an app available to anyone and hope to finish them soon.

Thanks again for getting in touch and keep following my blog for more info about the IWT.

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By: April Silver https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-233662 Fri, 03 Jun 2022 07:45:38 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-233662 Michael,
Amazing work. You obviously have a great deal of backpacking experience and time under your belt. I am an avid hiker. I’ve hiked 1/3 of the AT, and PCT, as far as long distance hiking goes. A couple of questions for you:
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(1) how was the snake situation? I live in SLC and once above 75’ degrees the rattle snakes come out. I ask because my hiking companion is my well trained working/herding dog. She is not yet rattle snake trained. I keep a very close eye on her, but being the trail is so remote, I would leave her behind if necessary
(2) are all sections passable by dog?
We do 10-20 mile day hikes regularly during season. She is in great shape, carrying her own pack, and follows commands. She loves the cold and does ok in hot days above, but sometimes drags if it’s above 80 degrees
(3) would you suggest a satellite phone in case of emergencies? I would be hiking alone, which I solo hiked my sections along the AT and PCT. But they are well traveled comparatively to the IWT it sounds like. In case of an emergency I’m guessing there is not a great deal of cell phone coverage
(4) any suggestions on provisioning?
What was the longest distance between places to purchase pack food? I’m used to mailing my self food boxes along routes.
(5) how was the water filtration availability?
We’re there ever days between water sources?

Thank you for your time, energy, advice and links for all of your suggestions and info.
I used to live in Ketchum ID and have always wanted to explore more of Idaho backpacking. Finding this article and info. prepared by you, now makes planning that adventure no longer a dream, but a reality.

Take care and happy hiking-
Gratefully-
April Silver

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-205327 Tue, 18 May 2021 13:55:48 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-205327 In reply to LarryBoy.

Hi Larry,

When I first proposed the Idaho Wilderness Trail to the Idaho Conservation League, seeking their support for my idea, we all certainly were fully aware of the Idaho Centennial Trail (which, for readers unfamiliar with it, traverses Idaho’s length north to south). We looked at the ICT’s route and reached the same conclusion that you have: that it has a lot of merit but does not pass through the best areas of the three wilderness areas crossed by the Idaho Wilderness Trail (although there’s overlap between the two).

The IWT has never been cast as a competitor to the ICT. In fact, if the IWT grows in renown, it will only increase awareness of the ICT, much as the John Muir Trail does for the Pacific Crest Trail. We have made quite clear that the IWT follows existing trails and it obviously diverges significantly from the ICT. We also did not undertake this project as a way to sell maps and I’m not in that business. I hope a mapmaker decides to create commercial trail maps of the IWT, and of course, backpackers would want such maps.

My idea was that Idaho’s world-class wilderness areas deserve a “wilderness” trail all their own. The ICT traverses hundreds of miles of non-wilderness lands, providing a remote long-trail experience, but also an experience that, at times, varies greatly from backpacking through true wilderness.

In short, our promotion of the Idaho Wilderness Trail is a good thing for the ICT, not a competitor. I believe time will bear that out.

Thanks for the comment and your enthusiasm for backpacking and for the ICT.

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By: LarryBoy https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-205326 Tue, 18 May 2021 13:34:55 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-205326 I think it’s an unfortunate choice to frame this as a “new” trail, when in fact it could be more accurately described as a couple of alternates to the Idaho Centennial Trail within the same general corridor. The ICT itself is in desperate need of love and attention, and I would have liked to see this platform highlight and support the ICT, rather than conspicuously ignoring it. I understand that it’s easier to sell map sets for a “new” trail, as opposed to improvements/alternates for an existing trail, but I think it’s far better for the cause of long-distance hiking in Idaho if the author were to frame this IWT as a supplement to the ICT, rather than as a competitor.

I think the IWT route has a lot of potential, and frankly the “official” ICT’s routing through Sawtooths/Frank/Selway leaves something to be desired (in several places, it supposedly follows trails that have been abandoned for decades, skips some of the best scenery, or flat-out does not/hasn’t ever existed). The author is a good writer, has a pretty big platform, and has obviously mastered the SEO game. I’d like to see him use the platform to promote the ICT, and the IWT’s place within that larger trail system, rather than ignoring it.

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-199939 Thu, 11 Feb 2021 14:53:06 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-199939 In reply to Tye.

No, Tye, I’m sorry but I will provide info as soon as possible. Thanks for your interest.

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By: Tye https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-199938 Thu, 11 Feb 2021 14:34:30 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-199938 Any updates on the timeframe of a map for this upcoming season?

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-199748 Mon, 08 Feb 2021 12:19:15 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-199748 In reply to CJ.

Hi CJ,

Spring is only a feasible time to do the Idaho Wilderness Trail if you’re prepared to travel and navigate over deep snow in the mountains and avoid avalanche hazard (which would usually be low by late spring). The canyon bottoms are snow-free by perhaps mid-spring, varying with elevation. Peak season is June through September.

As stated elsewhere in these comments, we’re working on developing maps and I will include more information on that and the route as soon as possible.

Thanks for your interest in the IWT.

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By: CJ https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-199731 Mon, 08 Feb 2021 05:44:56 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-199731 In reply to Michael Lanza.

I would really like to do this trail next spring. Please let me know when a map is available. or if there are detailed directions, would be greatly appreciated. I have been dreaming of this trail for years.

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-198307 Tue, 26 Jan 2021 02:05:30 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-198307 In reply to Lisa.

Thanks, Lisa, glad to hear you’re excited about the IWT. I think you’ll find an experience not easily found on other long trails. I’m hoping we’ll have a map or maps available before too long. Stay tuned.

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By: Lisa https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-198306 Tue, 26 Jan 2021 01:55:09 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-198306 I hiked the Colorado Trail in 2017 and am looking for another thru-hike to do in the next year or two. I am so excited to find the IWT. Look forward to seeing a map and learning more about this amazing trail. Thank you for working to make it happen and for this great article!

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-194114 Sat, 09 Jan 2021 12:25:31 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-194114 In reply to Jennifer Philipps.

Hi Jennifer, thanks for asking. We have some folks working on maps and hope to be able to share them soon. It’s a new route and we’re still in the process of creating support materials and information for it. Thanks for your patience, I promise I will share more as soon as I have it.

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By: Jennifer Philipps https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-193902 Fri, 08 Jan 2021 15:09:29 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-193902 In reply to Michael Lanza.

Hi! It appears the original Google map is no longer active. Is there a way to gain access to it again? Or is there an OnX track from someone’s trip available (knowing everyone takes a bit different route with side trips).

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-183145 Wed, 25 Nov 2020 16:14:39 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-183145 In reply to Christina A.

Thanks for asking, Christina. We’re working on the map and I will announce it’s availability in this story and elsewhere at this blog as soon as possible. I appreciate your interest in the Idaho Wilderness Trail.

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By: Christina A https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-183073 Wed, 25 Nov 2020 00:37:32 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-183073 Any word on when a map will be available? Heck, even pictures of existing maps with the trails highlighted would be better than nothing.

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-126763 Mon, 02 Mar 2020 13:22:01 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-126763 In reply to Adam.

Hi Adam,

The southern terminus (mentioned in the story) is the Middle Fork Boise River Trail no. 460/Atlanta Power Plant Trailhead on the outskirts of the tiny town of Atlanta. We have a cartographer working on maps now and I will add information about maps to this story as soon as I have it. Thanks for asking.

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By: Adam https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-126612 Fri, 28 Feb 2020 01:40:22 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-126612 Where is the southern terminus? When will a map/description of the route be available?

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By: Anonymous https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-124615 Wed, 08 Jan 2020 19:24:03 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-124615 5

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-114851 Fri, 30 Aug 2019 15:20:21 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-114851 In reply to Marcus.

I agree, they are two highlights of the trail.

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By: Marcus https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-114805 Fri, 30 Aug 2019 02:15:17 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-114805 In reply to Michael Lanza.

Awesome! Definitely excited to see the Bighorn Crags and Selway Crags included.

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-114798 Thu, 29 Aug 2019 23:55:57 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-114798 In reply to Marcus.

Hi Marcus, that’s an astute question. The Idaho Wilderness Trail overlaps the Centennial Trail in parts of each of the three wilderness areas, which is logical since a close look at maps would reveal that there are somewhat limited options for creating a route that uses existing trails to make a north-south traverse of these areas. But the IWT also diverges from the CT for long stretches in each wilderness area. We looked at the CT, and we respect the work and planning that went into it, but we ultimately chose a route for the IWT that we feel traverses many of the best portions of these wildernesses.

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By: Marcus https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-114797 Thu, 29 Aug 2019 23:48:39 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-114797 Is this route different than the Idaho Centennial Trail, that already existed and traversed these wilderness areas?

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-114712 Wed, 28 Aug 2019 17:54:24 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-114712 In reply to Nitro.

Thanks Greg, we’re working on the map and I’ll announce when it’s available. Stay tuned!

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By: Nitro https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-114645 Tue, 27 Aug 2019 19:39:54 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-114645 Looks amazing, i would also like to see the map, hope it’s accessible soon.

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By: Katharine https://thebigoutsideblog.com/americas-newest-long-trail-the-idaho-wilderness-trail/#comment-114565 Mon, 26 Aug 2019 16:27:16 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=34995#comment-114565 What a cool project, sounds like an amazing route! FYI check the permissions on the overview map (google drive link)- it is not publicly accessible at the moment.

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