Comments on: Ancient and Modern Folly: Backpacking Utah’s Dark Canyon https://thebigoutsideblog.com/ancient-and-modern-folly-backpacking-utahs-dark-canyon/ America’s Best Backpacking and Outdoor Adventures Tue, 18 Mar 2025 21:14:18 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/ancient-and-modern-folly-backpacking-utahs-dark-canyon/#comment-250987 Wed, 18 Sep 2024 22:02:26 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=28090#comment-250987 In reply to Stephen McHale.

Thanks, Stephen. I would expect the water sources are even more scarce in October than in May. The trip planning section at the end of this story provides details of the itinerary, a suggested map, and other logistics and tips on planning this trip, including the locations of the specific water sources that we found and used. Reading this entire story requires a paid subscription to The Big Outside. A subscription gives you full access to all of my blog’s stories, including the trip planner section in each story about specific trips.

Have a great hike!

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By: Stephen McHale https://thebigoutsideblog.com/ancient-and-modern-folly-backpacking-utahs-dark-canyon/#comment-250986 Wed, 18 Sep 2024 20:59:31 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=28090#comment-250986 Hey Michael,

This is excellent. Thanks so much for your beautiful write up. I’m planning trip to Dark Canyon in October, following a very similar route. I’m wondering if you can tell me what maps I should pick up for the trip? Also, any idea how the water situation differs in October from a May trip?

Peace,
Stephen

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/ancient-and-modern-folly-backpacking-utahs-dark-canyon/#comment-249139 Mon, 01 Apr 2024 18:39:33 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=28090#comment-249139 In reply to Jeff Bockoven.

Jeff,

It’s easy to criticize decisions made by politicians as “political,” because all of them are political, of course. You can also always point to people who are happy and people who are unhappy over political decisions, and major donors who are pleased. And yes, reducing the amount of land that is open to exploitation by extractive industries may increase the value of their products that come from elsewhere, but you can also say that’s good for those industries and for their workers, the classic argument made for exploiting lands everywhere.

But ultimately, preserving land means protecting it from extractive uses and setting it aside as more wild spaces for people to enjoy nature. I support that as do most Americans. Talking points like those you employ in your argument do not win the day in public opinion. Americans value natural resources that are retained in their natural state. It would be hypocritical to not advocate for the policies—or the political actions, if you prefer using that term—that protect the places I write about and enjoy visiting.

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By: Jeff Bockoven https://thebigoutsideblog.com/ancient-and-modern-folly-backpacking-utahs-dark-canyon/#comment-249137 Mon, 01 Apr 2024 17:11:04 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=28090#comment-249137 I think it unfortunate to add political commentary. Maybe you though it was necessary. Keep in mind though that political moves are generally done for very different reasons than what they appear.
BIll Clinton’s designation of federal land for Grand Staircase was not as it first appears. It was done for political gain, not to make the day of environmentalists. It was a shrewd move that made one side happy and really made his biggest donor elated. See, if you shut off a large parcel of land, it makes the product of other lands more valuable.

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/ancient-and-modern-folly-backpacking-utahs-dark-canyon/#comment-205878 Tue, 25 May 2021 14:32:25 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=28090#comment-205878 In reply to Julie.

You’re welcome, Julie, and have a great trip.

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By: Julie https://thebigoutsideblog.com/ancient-and-modern-folly-backpacking-utahs-dark-canyon/#comment-205874 Tue, 25 May 2021 14:27:09 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=28090#comment-205874 Thank you for this great write-up! We are headed to Dark Canyon next weekend!

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