Comments on: Backpacking the Grand Canyon’s Thunder River-Deer Creek Loop https://thebigoutsideblog.com/backpacking-the-grand-canyons-thunder-river-deer-creek-loop/ America’s Best Backpacking and Outdoor Adventures Fri, 29 Aug 2025 16:31:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/backpacking-the-grand-canyons-thunder-river-deer-creek-loop/#comment-252373 Mon, 27 Jan 2025 15:32:44 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=29942#comment-252373 In reply to rob robinson.

Hi Rob,

That’s always a critical question with any Grand Canyon trip, but access from the North Rim gets trickier in spring. But yes, spring (when I took the trip) and fall are the prime seasons for this hike.

If you’re a subscriber to The Big Outside, you’ll find more info about seasons, our itinerary on this trip, water, and other logistical details and tips on planning it yourself. A subscription gives you full access to all of my blog’s stories, including the trip planner section in stories about specific trips, where I share details of the itinerary and other logistics and planning tips.

I also offer Custom Trip Planning, where I’ll help you plan this or any trip you read about at my blog, customizing an itinerary ideal for you and helping you with other insights about the trip, including navigating a competitive permit process.

I hope one of those options works for you.

Thanks for the question. Good luck.

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By: rob robinson https://thebigoutsideblog.com/backpacking-the-grand-canyons-thunder-river-deer-creek-loop/#comment-252355 Sun, 26 Jan 2025 16:31:22 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=29942#comment-252355 have you done this in the fall or autumn? What time of year would you say is the best time to try to do this loop?

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/backpacking-the-grand-canyons-thunder-river-deer-creek-loop/#comment-233669 Fri, 03 Jun 2022 11:17:57 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=29942#comment-233669 In reply to Michael Bode.

Hi Michael,

Good to hear from you again and it sounds like you had very good conditions for a beautiful hike. Thanks for sharing all of those details. You noted that being there in early May gave you moderate temps, which is fortunate. For the benefit of everyone reading this, I’ll add that I’ve also seen very hot temps even in April—in fact, my most-recent trip there, which I wrote about in this story, was this past April 5-10, and we had mostly very nice temps but still some hot afternoons.

Good to hear from you again, Michael. Keep in touch.

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By: Michael Bode https://thebigoutsideblog.com/backpacking-the-grand-canyons-thunder-river-deer-creek-loop/#comment-233642 Thu, 02 Jun 2022 01:29:01 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=29942#comment-233642 Hello again, Michael. My backpacking friend and I completed this hike the first week of May. We appreciated your usual good guide in getting ready for it. We elected to do it in 5 days, 4 nights to have some easier days, but could definitely have done it in 4. By going a little earlier than you, we did not experience oppressive heat, and felt the Surprise Valley sections were pretty tolerable despite the full sun exposure. Adding 10 degrees would have felt different. Road conditions to the trailhead were very good. By camping at Upper and Lower Tapeats campgrounds, day 2 was an easy one and allowed for hanging out in the one shaded area at Lower Tapeats and reading as well as chatting with an entertaining river guide. Crossing the creek was not difficult, mid-calf level for us, and allowed for avoiding the most exposed area of the trail on the west side of Tapeats Creek. We encountered a rattlesnake at both Upper and Lower Tapeats.

The hike along the river to Deer Creek was really nice scenery and by taking the high route we again avoided the most exposed section. By camping at Deer Creek, we were able to walk back down to the narrows in the late afternoon and have it to ourselves (river parties having moved on), with great flat light for photography. We felt we could have pushed all the way to the rim in one day on the climb out, but very much enjoyed spending the afternoon in ample shade at our water cache on the Esplanade and camping there, breaking the climb into two days.

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/backpacking-the-grand-canyons-thunder-river-deer-creek-loop/#comment-230336 Sun, 27 Feb 2022 15:22:07 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=29942#comment-230336 In reply to Ron B.

Hi Ron,

Thanks for the kind words and your question. This hike usually would not be possible in mid-March, mostly due to road access, although wintry weather in the upper canyon would present its own challenges, too. This is a wonderful trip but does have challenges that some other canyon hikes do not have. I get into much more specific detail about the hiking seasons and other details of this trip in the planning section at the bottom of this story (which does require a paid subscription to The Big Outside to access).

See my Custom Trip Planning page if you’d like my help planning your trip.

Good luck and get in touch anytime.

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By: Ron B https://thebigoutsideblog.com/backpacking-the-grand-canyons-thunder-river-deer-creek-loop/#comment-230311 Sun, 27 Feb 2022 10:42:17 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=29942#comment-230311 Hi Michael, brilliant review which really makes me want to do this hike. Is it possible to do it in mid-March, weather and access-wise? Many thanks

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/backpacking-the-grand-canyons-thunder-river-deer-creek-loop/#comment-220004 Mon, 08 Nov 2021 16:12:41 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=29942#comment-220004 In reply to Queen McGee.

Sorry, but I haven’t experienced any energy vortex in the Grand Canyon. But it’s a beautiful place that I find energizing!

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By: Queen McGee https://thebigoutsideblog.com/backpacking-the-grand-canyons-thunder-river-deer-creek-loop/#comment-219904 Mon, 08 Nov 2021 06:14:05 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=29942#comment-219904 Hello. Can you tell me of your experiences of the Vortex while Hiking at Grand Canyon. Thank! Queen

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/backpacking-the-grand-canyons-thunder-river-deer-creek-loop/#comment-206394 Mon, 31 May 2021 15:39:18 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=29942#comment-206394 In reply to Matt.

Thanks, Matt. For three to four days off the South Rim, I’d suggest South Kaibab to Hermits Rest or “Hermits Rest to Bright Angel, but it sounds like you’ve probably done those trails.

Have you backpacked the Escalante Route, Lipan Point to New Hance or Grandview? I write about that in this story, which also has photos from the Tanner and Beamer trails, a great out-and-back hike from Lipan Point. See my e-guide “The Best Backpacking Trip in the Grand Canyon.”

From the North Rim, I’ve only hiked this loop and the North Kaibab and I’d highly recommend the Thunder River-Deer Creek Loop—although it’s a tough hike in three days and not easy in four days.

See also my story “5 Epic Grand Canyon Backpacking Trips You Must Do.”

Good luck.

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By: Matt https://thebigoutsideblog.com/backpacking-the-grand-canyons-thunder-river-deer-creek-loop/#comment-206390 Mon, 31 May 2021 13:03:14 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=29942#comment-206390 Thanks for the write up Michael! If you only had 3-4 days to spend in the canyon, what’s your favorite hike? My wife and I have pretty much done all the major routes on the south side but never anything on the north. We are debating this hike or doing another variation on the south.
What do you think?

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By: Anonymous https://thebigoutsideblog.com/backpacking-the-grand-canyons-thunder-river-deer-creek-loop/#comment-111517 Mon, 17 Jun 2019 15:57:11 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=29942#comment-111517 5

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By: MichaelALanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/backpacking-the-grand-canyons-thunder-river-deer-creek-loop/#comment-104872 Fri, 30 Nov 2018 12:12:55 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=29942#comment-104872 In reply to Mitch Stevens.

That does not surprise me, Mitch. Thanks for the comment.

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By: MichaelALanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/backpacking-the-grand-canyons-thunder-river-deer-creek-loop/#comment-104871 Fri, 30 Nov 2018 12:12:14 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=29942#comment-104871 In reply to Barry Mitsch.

Thanks, Barry. I hope you tick it off your list.

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By: Barry Mitsch https://thebigoutsideblog.com/backpacking-the-grand-canyons-thunder-river-deer-creek-loop/#comment-104870 Tue, 27 Nov 2018 14:51:09 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=29942#comment-104870 Great report, still on my list.

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By: Mitch Stevens https://thebigoutsideblog.com/backpacking-the-grand-canyons-thunder-river-deer-creek-loop/#comment-104869 Mon, 26 Nov 2018 15:38:37 +0000 https://thebigoutsideblog.com/?p=29942#comment-104869 One of my all-time favorite backpacking adventures!

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