Comments on: Thru-Hiking the John Muir Trail in 7 Days: Amazing Experience, or Certifiably Insane? https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/ America’s Best Backpacking and Outdoor Adventures Thu, 28 Sep 2023 20:00:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-240342 Fri, 10 Feb 2023 23:21:43 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-240342 In reply to Celia Panzer.

Well, thanks very much, Celia. Please get in touch anytime I can help you out.

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By: Celia Panzer https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-240340 Fri, 10 Feb 2023 22:05:15 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-240340 I love your work. You inspire me.

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-231613 Mon, 28 Mar 2022 16:32:46 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-231613 In reply to Chris Stratton.

Hi Chris,

Yes, I can give you a personalized trip plan. See my Custom Trip Planning page to learn how I can help you plan your trip. I’ll also email you separately. Thanks for reaching out.

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By: Chris Stratton https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-231596 Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:45:44 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-231596 In reply to Michael Lanza.

I am looking for a 50-75 mile 5-7 day hike to do this summer second week of June.
Part of jmt.
Happy to pay for your knowledge and planning help

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-230331 Sun, 27 Feb 2022 14:47:18 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-230331 In reply to Angel Ocana.

Hi Angel,

This article doesn’t provide a specific itinerary but that’s part what I offer with my my Custom Trip Planning page for the JMT and other trips. Get in touch with me if that interests you. Thanks and good luck.

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By: Angel Ocana https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-230220 Sat, 26 Feb 2022 13:23:40 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-230220 I’m planning to hike the JMT this summer, I don’t have the luxury of 3 weeks off work so the 10-day plan would be perfect for me, however, when I read your article I didn’t see the 10-day itinerary, or mileage, would you mind sharing those? Thx

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By: Michael Lanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-187150 Sun, 13 Dec 2020 14:09:18 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-187150 In reply to John.

That’s absolutely true, John, and I hope (and believe) this story conveys the extreme difficulty of this very aggressive itinerary. Even a 15-day itinerary, averaging nearly 15 miles per day, requires proper training and planning, especially keeping your pack as light as possible. See my story “A Practical Guide to Lightweight and Ultralight Backpacking.”

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By: John https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-187042 Sun, 13 Dec 2020 05:16:41 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-187042 I wouldn’t say it’s insane. But unless you are in peak physical condition, and have some endurance training such as marathons, etc., hiking the JMT in anything less than 15 days is a very difficult endeavor. There is no right or wrong way to hike, just know that if you try it, this is a pace more in line with professional athletes than the average weekend trekker.

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By: Anonymous https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-153294 Sun, 19 Jul 2020 18:06:04 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-153294 4

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By: MichaelALanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101225 Mon, 05 Jun 2017 17:03:50 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101225 In reply to Steve.

Thanks for the nice compliments, Steve. I’ve actually written a blog post suggesting gear for the JMT: https://thebigoutsideblog.com/ask-me-what-gear-do-you-suggest-for-thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail/. However, that was last year, and of course, there’s new gear out every year. I may update that post eventually, but I suggest you scroll down my Gear Reviews page for links to categories of gear reviews: https://thebigoutsideblog.com/gear-reviews/. And take a look at my tips on ultralight backpacking: https://thebigoutsideblog.com/the-simple-equation-of-ultralight-backpacking-less-weight-more-fun/.

It’s a big trip for you, but I hope you get to thru-hike the John Muir Trail. Make it happen!

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By: Steve https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101224 Sun, 04 Jun 2017 20:47:55 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101224 Thanks Michael, that was an absolutely fantastic read. Some lovely, evocative writing there. You managed to convey both the joy and madness of such an ambitious undertaking. Still, you have a story you will never forget. Would love to know exactly what gear you took, though I guess most people get way too hung up on gear. Arcteryx, Berghaus and the like, no matter what they cost, can’t walk the thirty miles a day for you. The photos were amazing. I live in Gran Canaria but have long been eyeing the John Muir Trail, though it would be a standard three or so weeks for me, I imagine. Thanks again, that was the best thing I’ve read in a while on the outdoors.

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By: MichaelALanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101223 Thu, 11 May 2017 15:45:46 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101223 In reply to joe.

Hi Joe, I had used a GoLite ultralight pack on my JMT thru-hike, but GoLite is no longer around. I have not used a Zpacks. In my experience, though, the most ultralight packs, which have essentially no suspension, are only comfortable if you’re keeping total weight under 20 pounds, which requires very judicious packing, especially given how much food you have to carry on the JMT. I like the Osprey Exos packs because they offer enough support for at least 25 pounds, but are still quite lightweight. My review: https://thebigoutsideblog.com/gear-review-osprey-exos-58-backpack/.

Good luck with your hike.

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By: joe https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101222 Tue, 09 May 2017 22:25:50 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101222 Got a question. What backpack do you recommend for doing your JMT 10 day trip.
There are a lot of options. was looking at zpacks but am concerned about the fitting a bear canister inside it.
What pack did you use for your 7 day trip? Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

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By: michaellanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101214 Sat, 09 Jan 2016 14:30:30 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101214 Hi Andrew, if you’re prepared to hike with all of your gear the 22 miles (and it’s uphill) from Happy Isles to Tuolumne, I doubt any rangers you see (if you see any) would question your plans. You would only have a problem if they found you camping illegally. Yes, you may want to camp that night in the campground in Tuolumne; reserve a campsite as soon as you have your permit and know your plans, because I don’t think you’d find a first-come campsite available if you show up late in the day: http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/tmcamp.htm.

Good luck. Once you’ve dealt with the permit headaches and have all of the logistics planned out, it’s a great trip.

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By: Andrew https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101213 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 23:50:43 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101213 Thanks for the great post! I’m planning a 13 day trek on the JMT this summer and the permit process out of Yosemite is brutal! Even the Lyell Canyon permits are getting filled every day now (can request up to June 24 right now). I’ll be with a group of 3-4 and we are all out of state so will be relying on public transit.

I was contemplating the approach of trying to get a permit out of Lyell Canyon and doing a dayhike from HI to Tuolumne Meadow. I was wondering, because I believe you did this part without much gear?, would it be allowed to do this with all our gear? I feel like if a ranger saw us it would be hard to convince them we were indeed hiking to Tuolumne with full packs.

I’m also debating if we did this to request a late permit pickup so that we could get the permit and then hike some more or camp at the Tuolumne Meadow’s campground and get the permit the next day.

I’d appreciate any advice on this!

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By: michaellanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101212 Wed, 19 Aug 2015 16:40:55 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101212 In reply to Rich.

That’s a reasonable goal if you start early and maintain a strong pace. Have fun.

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By: Rich https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101211 Wed, 19 Aug 2015 16:32:19 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101211 I have to catch shuttle Sunday at 5:00 pm…

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By: Rich https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101210 Wed, 19 Aug 2015 16:31:05 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101210 Thanks…I plan on passing through t meadows on Saturday mid morning and stoping near sunrise creek…looks like about 15 miles from there to Forsyth trail around CR down to HI….

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By: michaellanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101209 Wed, 19 Aug 2015 16:07:18 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101209 In reply to Rich.

From the north/Tuolumne, Sunrise Lakes to Forsyth Trail looks to be a couple miles shorter than taking the connecting trail off the JMT farther south; and hiking the Forsyth up Clouds Rest is way cool, anyway. That’s a big day, you may need to leave Tuolumne well before lunch to reach Happy Isles by 5. Enjoy, Clouds Rest is quite amazing.

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By: Rich https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101208 Wed, 19 Aug 2015 15:49:25 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101208 Sorry
I’ll be on jmt northbound…planning on early lunch at T meadows then pushing on some where around sunrise lakes trail/sunrise high camp junction. Any idea which route would be better to do CR off jmt? Looks like I can take sunrise lakes trail or Forsyth trail..I’ll need to be at HI before 5 so need to start early on that day..

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By: michaellanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101207 Wed, 19 Aug 2015 15:28:23 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101207 In reply to Rich.

Hi Rich, please explain your question: What do you mean by which route?

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By: Rich https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101206 Wed, 19 Aug 2015 15:22:13 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101206 Michael
Im hoping to be able to have enough time to do HD or CR. from others recs I think I’ll try to do CR as seems to be highly recommended. I’ll be headed from the south. What route would you recommend as I must catch the uarts back to mammoth at 5 on Sunday.

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By: michaellanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101205 Tue, 18 Aug 2015 15:02:42 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101205 In reply to Rich.

Sounds smart. The other key point about tent vs. tarp is that if it’s raining a lot, with a tarp, you’re lying down on wet ground, meaning you’d at least want some ground cloth. Then you’re pushing up toward the weight of an ultralight tent, anyway.

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By: Rich https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101204 Tue, 18 Aug 2015 14:55:31 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101204 Think I’ll probably take cap 2 top and bottom as they are a few oz lighter. For leg warmth also may drop to one pair of compression underwear boxers and add a pair of long compression undies for leg warmth and not risk getting sleep pants wet..can always layer cap 2 over the tights if cold. I’ll be using a 15 deg marmot helium down bag so should sleep warm enough w layers…I don’t care for zip offs..never can find any that fit good as I have a athletic build…5’11” 210lbs…aka big butt and legs…?

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By: michaellanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101203 Tue, 18 Aug 2015 14:33:47 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101203 In reply to Rich.

Hi Rich, Your gear and clothing list is very close to what I would use on a late-summer JMT thru-hike. Your choice of lighter or heavier Capilene and Under Armour tops and bottoms depends on how warm or cold you get as well as the long-term forecast at your trip’s outset–it could be lows 40s at night or high 20s. If you decide on the heavier bottoms, I would consider whether it makes sense to just trade out those and your shorts for zip-off pants. I’ve heard from other JMT hikers this summer that they’ve been getting wet. An 8×10 tarp can be rigged to keep the rain off you and your gear, though you may need to seek campsites that are protected from wind if it’s really stormy; but short of getting in some practice with pitching the tarp before your trip, you might be happier with a tent, especially on a two-week trip. Good luck, be safe, and have fun.

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By: Rich https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101202 Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:51:52 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101202 Mike
I’m set to do a flip flop jmt thru out of Devils (north then south after taking yarts back to mammoth) starting sept 10. I often hike on the southern AT and use a lightheart gear solong 6 hybrid tent that comes in just under 2lbs. Was thinking about trying a 8×10 tarp on jmt to save over 1lb but seems like they are getting more rain and storms currently…since I’ve never tried tarping in not totally sure now. My base weight is around 12-13 with my bear can..so my pack should stay under 30lbs even for my 7 day food carry out of mtr. I also plan out jogging shorts with a long sleeve rei sahara button up shirt to keep some sun off…shorts ok for sept..I guess can wear sleep capilene in morning if cold under my shorts..here is my clothing list for your input. Thx again
all cloths for sept 10(14 day jmt hike)
Rei Sahara ls button up
Rei ul tech t??
Lt jogging shorts
Under armour compression boxers x2
DT hiker socks x 2
DG gaiters
OR helium 11 rain/wind shell
Ula rain skirt??
Montbell ul down parka
Capilene 4 quarter zip hoody or capilene 2 is lighter????
Under armour compression thermal leggings 2.0 or 3.0????
Lasportiva Wildcats
OR sun runner hat
Mountain hardware micro done beenie and liner gloves
Buff

Thanks
Richard

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By: michaellanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101201 Fri, 07 Aug 2015 11:06:15 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101201 In reply to Rich.

Hi Rich, we averaged around 2.5 mph (as you may, it sounds like) and hiked 12 or more hours a day. Yes, there are a number of passes between 11,000 and over 13,000 feet. Hiking north to south gives you a little more time to acclimate before hitting the highest passes. Have a great trip.

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By: michaellanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101200 Fri, 07 Aug 2015 11:04:19 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101200 In reply to Michael.

Hey Michael, the two experiences you refer to may simply be short-term anomalies, although it would also appear that weather in many areas, including the three West Coast states, has not been following historical norms in recent years.

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By: Rich https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101199 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 22:14:42 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101199 Michael
How many hour per day did you hike? I’m planning for 14 days…I avg around 2.5 mph on southern AT. Any altitude issues?

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By: Michael https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101198 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 22:01:45 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101198 I just finished a 14 day hike of the JMT. I was planning on 13 days but was held up on the north side of Forester by a storm and ended up doing 3 easy days instead of pushing it the last two days from Bubbs Creek to Whitney Portal. Based on my experience this year, and what I read last year, assuming good weather in August or September is probably a poor assumption. I did have a good time in between rain storms though. Something it taught me though was that the National Weather Service has no clue when predicting weather in the Sierras.

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By: michaellanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101197 Tue, 04 Aug 2015 14:00:09 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101197 In reply to Rich.

Hi Rich, thanks for reading my blog and congrats on your upcoming JMT hike. September’s a good time. I’ve almost always used a tarp in the Sierra because I go in late summer, post-mosquitoes. I’d check the forecast, make sure there’s no huge storm coming in. You might find this blog post helpful (even though it refers to August instead of September, much of it is relevant to you): https://thebigoutsideblog.com/ask-me-what-clothing-do-you-recommend-for-august-in-the-high-sierra/

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By: Rich https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101196 Tue, 04 Aug 2015 02:07:53 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101196 I’ve enjoyed your article several times….after 2 years with no luck getting a permit I’m doing a flip flop hike. September 10 start out of Devils post pile…4 days go get to happy isles..catch 5:00pm yarts back to mammoth then on a separate permit hike south from Devils to Whitney. My base weight with canister will be under 13lbs. I’m on the fence about buying a tarp to save a pound from my 2lb lhg solong 6 tent…any advice as all my hikes are on the southern AT. I have no prob doing 16+ miles per day…thx

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By: Pro Tips For Buying the Right Boots | The Big Outside https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101193 Wed, 18 Mar 2015 11:01:01 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101193 […] do I do? When I’m ultralight backpacking big-mileage days, for instance (as on the John Muir Trail, shown in lead photo at top of story), I want low-cut or mid-cut, highly breathable shoes, […]

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By: michaellanza https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101191 Tue, 17 Feb 2015 16:11:51 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101191 In reply to Brooke Thomas.

Hi Brooke, thanks for the nice comment. Good luck realizing your goal of hiking the entire JMT. I have not yet backpacked the Goat Rocks area, though it’s on my list to do.

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By: Brooke Thomas https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101190 Sun, 15 Feb 2015 18:40:45 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101190 I thoroughly enjoyed this post! We’ve backpacked sections of the John Muir Trail, with hopes to hike the whole thing eventually (likely over a 21+ day span). Thousand Island Lake is one of my favorite places on Earth! Thank you for the stories and sharing your adventure. Random questions – have you ever hiked the Goat Rocks in Gifford Pinchot National Forest in WA? I think that’s where we’re headed this summer. Happy Trails!

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By: The Year in 10 Stories at The Big Outside | The Big Outside https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101189 Tue, 30 Dec 2014 14:02:36 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101189 […] cliffs known as the Waterpocket Fold in Capitol Reef described it to me as “just as nice as the John Muir Trail,” I was skeptical. See for […]

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By: Mid-Life Crisis: Hiking 50 Miles Across Zion In a Day | The Big Outside https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101174 Thu, 15 Nov 2012 03:24:37 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101174 […] Zion traverse. And as a pure test of endurance, this one huge day across Zion does not touch the seven-day thru-hike of the John Muir Trail that two of my companions today and I knocked off five years […]

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By: In the Footsteps of John Muir: Finding Solitude in the High Sierra | The Big Outside https://thebigoutsideblog.com/thru-hiking-the-john-muir-trail-in-a-week-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience-or-just-certifiably-insane/#comment-101173 Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:50:42 +0000 http://thebigoutside.net/?p=342#comment-101173 […] This range has pulled me back repeatedly in the years since, including for a thru-hike of the John Muir Trail (JMT) a few summers ago, when I both marveled at the beauty of that classic hike, and kept looking […]

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